In a recent podcast, Joe Rogan and Bill Maher, both self-described liberals, critiqued progressive policies. They discussed “woke” politics, raised questions about the authenticity of the Black Lives Matter movement, expressed concerns about “gender-affirming care,” and delved into the challenges of equity versus equality. Here’s a recap of their conversation.
Woke Ideologies Often Go Against Traditional Liberalism
Rogan’s opinion of Maher, “I think they look at you like a guy who they’re worried about because you don’t tow the line. You’re like a 90s liberal. You’re like liberals back when they were more reasonable, before they became leftists. And now every liberal, kind of has to be a leftist. If you want to be on the team, you got to subscribe to the most fringe ideas that the team is promoting.”
Maher wanted to clarify that being woke and being liberal are not the same thing. He believes that woke ideologies often go against traditional liberalism. Maher advised people to express their opinions but not to claim they’re the same as his long-held liberal beliefs.
It Used To Be the Klu Klux Klan’s Position
Maher expressed his belief on “The Joe Rogan Experience” that he, along with liberals, has always supported the idea of a colorblind society. He explained that the aim is to not consider race in any situation, a shared belief among liberals, from Kennedy to Martin Luther King.
Maher pointed out that woke ideology differs from the liberal perspective, as they emphasize noticing race in all situations, which he finds interesting because it used to be the Klu Klux Klan’s position.
Equality, Not Equity, Is the Best Solution
Rogan chimed in, highlighting the significant problems of extreme poverty and crime. He expressed his effort to understand woke ideology but firmly believes that equality, not equity, is the best solution.
Maher spoke of the rising crime in Chicago, and how the BLM movement doesn’t appear concerned about black-on-black violence.
“Murders have been happening way out of control in Chicago among the African-American community for far too long and not really reported in the way that they should be,” Maher said.
“It’s Amazing How Black Lives Don’t Seem To Matter When They Are Taken by Black Lives”
“It’s amazing how black lives don’t seem to matter when they are taken by black lives. Now, Chicago, my friends that live there say it’s not safe anywhere.”
“I don’t understand why there isn’t a more concerted effort to shine a spotlight on it,” Maher said, then asked, “Where are the leaders of the community?”
The reaction on X (formerly Twitter) was mixed, however many users were united.
“Spot on” …. “Accurate” …. “He’s not wrong” …. “No argument”
“BTW, the KKK All Vote 100% GOP and Have for Over 50 Years”
Or maybe not, as another user replied “That’s interesting since the KKK is a republican led southern conservative organization… BTW, the KKK all vote 100% GOP and have for over 50 years.”
Another also disagreed, stating, “That’s a lie!! The problem is that everyone does see race first, that’s the first impressions. Someone sees a clean cut white person not a threat. Someone sees a tattoo covered white skin person as a possible threat , someone sees an olive skin person as a possible threat. Black person as Danger”.
Rogan and Maher also discussed genital mutilation and so-called “transgender care” for minors.
“When It’s Really Childhood Mutilation”
“It’s terrifying that they’re calling it ‘gender-affirming care,’ when it’s really childhood mutilation,” Rogan said. “Before you have the ability to figure out what ‘permanent’ means. You’re only 7 years old, you can’t get your face tattooed, you can’t go to war, you can’t get married, there’s reasons for all that stuff, you’re too young,” the podcaster claimed. Rogan also went on to say that puberty blockers are “not reversible.”
Maher’s perspective was that the rush of some children wanting to change their gender is “trendy” and a “TikTok challenge that got out of hand.”
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Source: Fox News